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Assisted By : Gunjan Saraf   mailto:gunjan@workinghumor.com

9th January  2002    #     041

   Happy Universal Letter Writing Week



Moderator's Comment -
                              ~ Eva
                              ~ Gunjan


Innovative? Payment Collection
                             ~ from Arik Schenkler

But it works in Scotland !
                             ~ from Ray Brown

Speaker Tips
                             ~ from Tom Antion


Who says we need tests?
                 ~ An extract from The Doc's mail

Getting Your Foot (Tongue) in the Door
                 ~ TaxMama

The Sound of Laughter
                         ~ Gunjan


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Moderator's Message

Dear LaughMates,

Amit Malik has just started a site called
www.RicherthanBillGates.com He submitted his
site to I-Helpdesk for review. I thought he had started
a humor site but then realized he was serious. I felt
his ambition was not just stretching but 'stressing' and
went ahead and wrote a scathing review ending up with
Einstein's quote -

"One should guard against preaching to young people
success in the customary form as the main aim in life.
The most important motive for work in school and in life
is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge
of the value of the result to the community."

It was a pleasure to see Amit reply under pressure with
grace and good humor. (If you would like to go through the
entire exchange you'll have to go to the I-Helpdesk Archives at
and check out issues 969, 971 and 973)

It's also a pleasure to know that Amit is now a Laughmate and
I extend a warm welcome to him. Amit why don't you introduce
yourself to the other Laughmates. (This invitation extends to
all you Laughmates who haven't yet been Featured Laughmates.)

This week we'd love to hear more tales of people who used
humor while under pressure.
A good example is in 'this week's humor' section

Lastly, before I wind up (There goes my resolution :-)
The inimitable J D Lentz sent me this story ....

Friedrich Nietzsche was at a cafe one time working on a revision
of his, Being and Nothingness.  He called the waitress over and
ordered a cup of coffee with no milk.  She replied, "I'm sorry, sir,
but we are out of milk. Would you like it without cream?"

and there's more from J D Lentz in this issue....

So what are we waiting for, with no further ado
Here's I-Laugh #41

coz 7 days without a pun makes one weak

And a word from the other Moderator

Dear LaughMates,

This past week, getting back to work after the holidays
has it been a little tough to get back into the groove?

Think back, how many times did you get to laugh out loud?
I can't remember right now....in my sleepy fog.

Recently, a really pretty postcard arrived at my office, from
a client. It announced the mini-series about Woodrow Wilson
would be airing on PBS on January 6th and 13th. My friend,
Mitch Wilson had filmed and directed this project.
Now, as it aired Sunday night, and I was looking up information
online, it suddenly struck me - Mitch WILSON, Woodrow
WILSON! Maybe there was a connection here? Why didn't I
ever notice before?  (uh....I learned there was no relationship...
but for a moment there...he had me going.)

And then I'm thinking...gee, if he's doing this kind of thing,
why haven't I ever hit him up to narrate his films? (He wins
Peabody awards and stuff like that for his art.)  Then, as I am
listening to the moderator's voice, I realize, it's Linda Hunt.
Yeah, if you could get Linda Hunt...would you want me?
(That doesn't mean I won't ask when I see him this week.)

Who do you know that can help you achieve your dream?
Think it's time to talk to that person?

Your Humble Guide,

Eva Rosenberg


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 >From Arik Schenkler <shenkler@netvision.net.il>

Gunjan shalom,

A good story for India....

If you do that in Israel, you'll find all the employees joining
in the picnic and asking for food and beverage....

All the best,

Arik Schenkler - CEO
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Comments -

===> But it works in Scotland !

 >From Ray Brown <ray.brown@lineone.net>

Hi there,

A happy New Year from a very snowy & cold Aberdeen

Sorry no-one has wished you a happy New Year so far.

We have just spent New Year in a place called Cullen,
Moray Coast of Scotland. We reckon we could remake
a big movie there - "The Cullen Fields"

An add on to your picnic debt collecting story. I have a
friend who is in office furnishings. He had a very slow payer
so he went and sat in their reception and as each new
visitor came in he said "you carry on I'm just waiting for
some overdue money." He like your friend got his cheque.

Keep up the good work. Humour and success I have found
often go hand in hand. Work should not be a drag we all
spend too much time working for that to be the case.

Kind regards,


Comments -

===> Speaking Tips

Here's the next article in the series of public speaking
tips from Tom Antion.

Time of day and Humor

The first speaker of the day for an early morning (7:00 a.m.
to 9:00 a.m.) program should not expect hearty laughter.
People are not conditioned to laugh a great deal in the early
morning. Many won't even be awake yet. Use more
information and less humor. I was asked by a sales speaker
to open up an early morning seminar.

He said, "I just want you to get them laughing before I go on."
I told him that it was not a good idea, but he insisted. I opened
up the seminar with some sure-fire humor to test their
responsiveness and got little response. I cut my material and
brought the speaker on stage. He couldn't get them laughing
either. I sat in the audience and watched. By 10:15 a.m. they
were laughing at just about anything.

It's important for you to know when NOT to expect hearty
laughter. It would be a waste of time to use your best material
at a time when laughter normally wouldn't be expected. If you
didn't know that early morning programs aren't the best for
laughter, you could have your confidence shaken so badly
that the rest of your presentation might suffer. Also, keep in
mind that I am giving you general principles. You might run
into a lively group sometime  just don't expect it.

Many consider brunch to be the best time of day to expect a
responsive audience. It is late enough that the folks who sleep
late are now awake, but not so late in the day that early risers
are starting to get tired. Lunch is generally a time for good
response for the same reasons as brunch.

In the afternoon people are starting to get tired. Audience
members will retain less because they are not listening as
closely as they did in the morning. You can use more humor
and less hard information, but don't expect laughter to be as

The last speaker of a long afternoon or evening program should
not expect a great response, again because folks are too worn
out. Keep your presentation short and crisp and acknowledge
the lateness so that the audience knows you care about them.
One time I was the last speaker on a long program in Baltimore,
Maryland, for a food service management company. I was
  being introduced at 8:35 p.m. on a Monday night in the fall.
What do you think the mostly male audience was thinking at
8:35 p.m. on a Monday night in the Fall? Of course!
MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL! I got up and said:

   There are three things I would never want to be: 1. a
   javelin catcher; 2. the scoop man at a Donkey Basketball
   game; and 3. the last speaker on a long program. (I looked
   at my watch.) It's now 8:40 p.m. I'm going to limit my
   remarks to 15 minutes. I guarantee you will be in the
   hospitality suite in time for the kickoff. I kept my

Do you think I had more of their attention than if I had not
made the comment? You bet I did! Even though it had been
a long day, they all had a good laugh during my talk. A little
care for your audience will go a long way.

Tom Antion
Great Speaking

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=====  New Discussions  =====

====> Who says we need tests?

Hi Friends,

I remember having, long ago, read a book titled
"A Tale told by an Idiot". In it the author says that
he had just taken the ISC exam and was surprised
to find that he had come first overall (The exam was
for the entire commonwealth at the time). He goes on
to add that this made him lose complete faith in
competitive exams. :-)

I've never done that well in academics but concur with
him on the stupidity of exams and tests so was thrilled
to see this paragraph in a mail from J D Lentz.

"You see, I don't give tests to my students -- I haven't done
so in more than ten years.  I can't find any research that
substantiates any test as a method of determining depth
of learning, so I have my own way of determining that.

Each time I close a unit of study, the students -- singly or in
very small groups, must demonstrate in any fashion they
choose that they have come to an understanding of the
work we have finished.

They develop video tapes of mini-dramas, ballet routines,
lots of satirical plays, a song, a rap, maybe a poem, and
usually an outrageous painting or two.  These students
really come forth when they are allowed to do so in the
manner they find most comfortable and most expressive.

What do other teachers on this list feel about JD's

Come to think of it, when we used to make promotional
materials for a pharmaceutical company, a product
manager who I was especially close to was always
worrying about evaluation methods for each of their
training programs. Maybe he could have used
JD's methods too.

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telling me how Friedrich Nietzsche affected his
understanding of Hamlet. These chats are in
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You can subscribe if interested with a blank message
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this will be an Adult List. Here was how JD warned me ...
"Hey Gunjan, you are aware that much of the fun
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and lewd aren't you?"

I braced myself and subscribed! :-) Would you too like to?]

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====> Getting Your Foot (Tongue) in the Door

Hi LaughMates,

This week is shaping up to be interesting. Although
not a recording artist, I just completed an interview with
Rolling Stone. They're working on an article about Financial
Aid for college students. And knowing little or nothing about
the specific areas the reporter wanted to cover, I was going to
pass on responding to Dan Janal's query. Then, I thought,
but this is such a major publication.  Think of SOMETHING!
So, I came up with this....

[I'll look forward to reading this article.

This is not my area of expertise but, I may be able to
help you with some of this.

My name is Eva Rosenberg, or as some call me,
TaxMama of http://taxmama.com

Clients come to me with their financial aid forms
each year, for all age levels (they are available from
elementary school on up - for private schools).

The first thing I think is really foolish and consistently
short-sighted is - despite knowing that these forms
must be filled out each year by the same time, they
show up, frantically, about two days before they are due.

It would make sense to plan for it a month or more in
advance, so there is time to fix problems or get the
correct information on time.

If you like, I can give you some alerts on problems that
are starting to crop for students due to the tax planning
of their parents. Behaving responsibly can sometimes
COST them their financial aid.

You can reach me by e-mail or phone, if I can help. ]

The reporter got a real kick about the twist I put on her
article. She responded almost immediately to schedule
the interview. (I was shocked! But delighted.)

During the interview, I gave her two unusual, but concrete
tips (aside from information) that no one else would have
thought up. She loved the originality.

So, it looks like, this month, I'll be in both Rolling Stone
AND the National Enquirer. Gee, this is SO  much fun!

So, think about how you can open a door using a twist
your prospect isn't expecting.  How can you offer them
something they need, but didn't think to ask about?

Your Comic Guide,

Eva Rosenberg
P.S. Drop by this page later this week
and see how we capitalize on all these interviews

====> Sound of Laughter,

Hi Friends,

John Cantu, the wz-ard for the "Create and Deliver Humor"
realm, a few weeks back, mentioned a site which had a
Laughter Survey. It lets you try to evaluate the likeability of
a person solely from their laugh.

>From a few given sound clips of laughter you are asked
to evaluate "Would you like to meet this person?"
"How positive/friendly is this laugh?" "Should this laugh be
included in a laugh track?" "How sexy is this laugh?" etc,

I thought this was a great idea. I thought I'd be able to
get my own laugh evaluated and checked the site out.
Unfortunately, the site wasn't half as interesting as John's
introduction. They had 16 tracks, you had to submit your
votes for all 16. If you wanted to stop after 6-8 the form
didn't accept your votes. Also there was no question of
getting your own laugh evaluated. The basic point they
were trying to get across from their survey was that
'Voiced laughter' evokes more positive feelings than
'unvoiced laughter'.

I still think it would be a great idea to have a place where
you could upload a recording of your own laughter and
see what people think of it. What do you think? Do you
thinks it's a good idea and would you like to try it
out if we managed to put something like that up on
our site? Would you take the trouble to check out a few
other Laughmates laughter and poll?

And this question is for the geniuses in technology on
our list. Arik, Gabor, DC, Ian (if I've missed your name it
may be because you haven't yet told me about yourself :-)
How tough or easy would it be to set up a page like that?

Awaiting your thoughts and suggestions,

WZ-ard of Humorous Quotes
WZ-ard of Humorous Poetry


===========  This week's Humor  ==========

A man was going up to bed, when his wife told him
he'd left the light on in the garden shed - she could
see it from the bedroom window. But he said that he
hadn't been in the shed that day. He looked himself,
and found there were people in the shed, stealing things.

He rang the police, but they told him that no-one
was in his area, so no-one was available to catch the
thieves. He said ok, hung up, counted to 30 and rang
the police again.

"Hello. I just rang you a few seconds ago because
there were people in my shed? Well, you don't have to
worry about them now, I've just shot them all."

Within five minutes there were half a dozen police
cars in the area, an Armed Response unit, the works.
Of course, they caught the burglars red-handed.

One of the policemen said to this man: "I thought
you said you'd shot them!"

He replied: "I thought you said there was no-one

(From Jo-Lene's Daily Humor)

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